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Post by mrnix on Feb 14, 2018 6:19:14 GMT
MrNix
Punishment: Perma Ban
Reason: (Bullying/Harassment)
I'd like to start this off by saying that I'm no saint and I have my fair share of issues as far as mental and social. As I write this I have a fever of 101 so forgive any un-clarity or fogginess... *Buckle in*
When I first joined the server I immediately dug an underground base and begun to hoard items and hide from other players as is my reaction in most Minecraft multiplayer servers, I was not very trusting and I ignored the community and rules for the first few days. "Yes I was THAT starter".
As time went on I became more active in chat and came out of the shell and got involved in the community and started making friends and enjoying the community feel of the server, it really is magical at times. I stream a lot of my game play and the server has almost become a narrative or sorts. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way at times. To a lot of people this is kind of like a family of sorts, and I am no different. The people here have made me feel love for a game that I never thought I'd feel again. I'v played the game since pre alpha and frankly the community breathed a kind of new life into it for me.
I have the kind of personality that lets me be friends with a wide variety of people and show a good range of understanding, often times I feel like I am lumped in with certain crowds of people who troll or make trouble and I'd like to formally say that I do not and have never supported that kind of behavior and very openly criticize them for doing so. Once again just because I have the potential to be friends with people does not mean I should be punished or judged for such. The "other" Discord is not meant for hate it's just mean to keep the hard memes out of the simplex one to appease everyone's wants/needs.
The very few people I have had disagreements with I have managed to hash out and even become friends with most of them, to me fixing your problems is better than ignoring them or being /seperated. That brings me to why I was banned. One particular user by the the name of Hiro has been a constant clash with me, as well as many other users. Even though I'd be happy to go into the specific instances I can tell you it's been an ongoing back and fourth. I posted a link to her staff application on a private discord and asked that people down vote it. I agree that it was abhorrently childish and not really like me if I can say so. That being said I also feel like if I posted my opinions on her thread directly it would have been seen the same way, as an attack and the result would have been one and the same. I'v gone to other staff members about these issues and was told they didn't want to say anything because it would "go south".
With all that out of the way I do want to formally apologize to the staff, my peers and most of all Hiro for my own childishness, it was never my intention to hurt your feelings and I had not known that you returned today, that was just poor timing I suppose. I guess that's why I posted my little rant away and in a private chat, I didn't want to hurt anyone feelings, but it did regardless and it was a mistake. Even though I stand by my opinions on the subject I am deeply sorry for making you feel unwelcome, it was wrong. You reached out to me today and showed me your builds and visited mine, I have deep seated trust issues, especially with people online so please forgive me for that. I hope that one day even if we can never be friends we at least understand one another and can relate on some human level. For what it's worth I like and support you posting artwork and to be honest I like your style.
I hope that whomever reads this can recognize that I am still human *ever bad at it* and I can accept genuine criticism and grow as a person. I would like to ask to be unbanned in the server as well as discord and muted in neither as my behavior in both is generally very positive. I am very active in chat and selling things/player interaction is pretty much the only fun I have here so a mute would basically eliminate my reason to play.
*Bonus Points/Requests*
I know I am not owed anything but I would like to ask that:
1. Jen/Jared be unbanned from discord for defending me.
2. Coolbone14 be unjailed as he stole from me in from what I saw was a misunderstanding.
3. if I am to be unbanned, have my items that were lost returned to me. IE shop
4. if I am to be remain banned or muted allow me to pass on some things to the players that positively influence me and the server and then leave.
Thanks for all your consideration, -Nick
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Post by Kitty on Feb 14, 2018 6:58:03 GMT
jebus my man, that took you long enough, I done gone and finished all my smirnoff screwdrivers waiting for this. got a cold? hope its not the flu, that thing is a killer this year. get better soon.
Its all fine and dandy to have opinions, but sometimes its best to keep them to one's self. We don't need the drama. When people mature and grow older they learn this skill, being able to choose your battles. After talking about it with all the staff, and seeing as you have fulfilled our request for a heartfelt appeal There will be an unban, though it will come with an indefinite server mute. Indefinite meaning at a later date you can appeal again and Staff will discuss it again.
- your shop is still there with all the items.
-jen/jared will need to make his own appeal.
-Coolbone PM-ed me asking if he can just take your stuff since you were perm banned. I said no. he said oh come on. I said no. I started to close your shop. He asked if he could still shop. told him I'm closing the shop till it can be worked out and sure you have 5 minutes to shop. he then proceeded to steal. he was jailed. he too can make an appeal of his own.
As for discord I think it best to keep the current ban until a later date.
If all these people are your friends on the server then you wont have any trouble giving them your discord name and having them contact you via PM on there. They can get that info from you on here or from others that know you.
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Post by mrnix on Feb 14, 2018 7:07:42 GMT
Okay well, thanks I guess and I personally think I should not be server muted as I have no violated any in game chat rules and I mean it when I say I REALLY ruins the entire point of me playing. And I am still short one beacon from my shop. How am I supposed to give them my discord "Not my discord" if I am silenced and banned from the actual discord. Seperate me from hiro if that's what you are worried about but removing the only reason I play is no different than leaving me banned.
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Post by Admin on Feb 14, 2018 8:13:24 GMT
Hello Mrnix, whilst it's true you didn't break any rules within the in-game chat on the server, I think it's fair to consider the discord server just an extension of that. It's talking with the same people/community just with a bit more freedom. A lot of the time after we mute someone in-game for any period of time, they just continue whatever behavior that led them to be muted on the discord server instead. It's just a bit too much effort to monitor both entities and give punishments in accordance with each separate one all of the time. Only recently I've seen that there's not much point muting someone in the in-game chat when they can continue in discord and vice versa. Also, whilst I agree the original punishment was too harsh, please don't ask for more than we can give. There is no scenario here where you get off scot-free. You did do a shitty thing and you do deserve a punishment and as you said in this situation you were no saint. I think I was the first one on the discord who said these punishments were too harsh for what happened, but on the other hand if you think you deserve to get off without any sort of punishment perhaps you best stay muted until you figure out why you actually do.
Also question. Do you even realize that sharing a discord server on the main discord server is redundant? Could you not foresee the possibility for someone to click on it whom you don't want to? And if that person were to click on it, would there be any difference in just saying everything you said on the main discord server?
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Post by mrnix on Feb 14, 2018 17:54:45 GMT
Hello Meehan,
To answer your question, I never shared a private discord on the original simplex discord, I was always in the simplex discord whenever possible as I enjoy hanging out in there and VC with the people that would pop in from time to time. Furthermore as stated it was a dumb thing to do either way and I made a mistake and had poor judgment whilst being sick. Keep in mind I only joined a new discord after a wide range of people have been banned from the original one.
I am not asking to get off "scott free", however this was the first time iv been talked to/punished and I pretty much only play the game on your server as a merchant so being perm muted is the same to me as being perm banned. I get that what I did was wrong believe me I do but as shitty as it was I don't think it warrants an indefinite anything, somehow being mean to someone I have frequently bumped heads with and have had an ongoing back and forth with has somehow landed me in more trouble than breaking any of the rules in the actual server or discord.
I have brought these back and fourth issues up before and believe it or not I have tried to ignore things and just be nice many other times. No disrespect here but every time I defended myself in a way with evidence or proof my threads got closed, I have been harassed and targeted just the same but for some reason It didn't seem as important to even talk to the player let alone punish "even though I didn't ask for them to be punished".
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